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Thanks again Steve for your contribution to our site! I have added a how-to page from our menu system.
Will R.
Dear Boomer
I just got my f12000 yesterday throwed away the instruction and took lap top out in the garage used your instuctions to install .great job
Now i must ride a 62 degree morning here in florida,going to get my home work done and saddle up....I'm using the stock settings for now
David
Brandon,Fl
Man little popping
Took about a 90 mile ride yesterday after installing fi2000 almost removed all the popping and backfiring big difference,might need to play with some.
the lugging seemed to be better also i hope this is the answer.the popping and backfiring was my biggest problem with this bike.
David
Brandon,Fl
You may want to check...
whether or not your seat comes in contact with the programmer placed on top of the sub-tank. After I installed mine, on the sub-tank as per the instructions, I replaced the foam rubber cover and the seat, sat on the seat, and then removed it again just to make sure there was enough clearance. The foam rubber cover was deeply creased by ribs on the bottom of the seat. So, I removed the tool pouch, and relocated the programmer to the tool tray where it is completely out of the way, and protected more from water damage.
Love the programmer BTW, (Cobra FI2000R O2). it increased performance without ruining my gas mileage. Average around town is always 50+, hiway is 55-57 at 70-75 mph. On a trip to Yellowstone this last weekend, driving around the loop inside the park, (which is low speed and fairly high altitude), I went 148.6 miles on 2.35 gal. of gas! Thats 63.23 mpg!
-kaelar
fuel
I just bought my 1300 t and it has 2000 miles on it and a progamer already. How does this help and will it hurt the bike.
Thanks for the tip!
Hi Kaelar,
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I looked at mine, and sure enough I see a rub mark from the seat coming in contact with it.
I've updated the installation instructions with your suggestion.
Thanks!
Boomer Sooner
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More than fuel processing
Hi again Boomer
Okay then. Not necessarily more information than I wanted. Learn something new every day and if I live a few hundred more years, I may become a wise man.
I quite enjoyed your explanation and was even able to comprehend it which, in and of itself, speaks volumes about your ability.
I’m really glad to know Gates isn’t in my alarm clock. Then again I think I knew that because I’ve had it for more than 20 years and it hasn’t failed once.
Nil Sine Labore
Conrad
Hmm.
I just thought of another example of an embedded system - the fuel processor on our beloved machines!
Boomer Sooner
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Fuel Processor
Back attcha Boomer and thanks for the kind words. What in God’s name does a embedded systems programmer do ?? Sounds pretty deep : - ) !
With some reservation, I wish I could understand all this business of fuel processing. To my simple mind, fuel processing is me putting fuel in; “Enterprise” using it up; and me putting more in. I call it the KISS principle and that suits me fine. Unless, or until, of course, I run into some problem. Then, it’s off to see the wizard [my dealer’s mechanic].
I love this website and I’ll reiterate …. Will Reece for President!
Nil Sine Labore
Conrad
Embedded
Hey Tourvet!
Embedded is the ugly step-child no one ever talks about. It's the low-level code that resides inside the chip itself and is the interface between the hardware (keyboard, thumb drive, monitor, etc) and the application software (the programs you use). Embedded resides in everything - your wristwatch, microwave, TV - anything that has an electronic board with chips in it. So when you press the 'a' key on keyboard, a circuit is completed and that voltage is sent to the cpu and interpreted by the embedded software as an 'a', then the embedded sends it out to the application(like your browser) and other hardware(like the monitor) and says "hey, an 'a' has been pressed - deal with it!". I'm sure you've heard of device drivers, like for your printer - TADA! - embedded. Now, for your PC, which has the OS and all the applications, it can be pretty complex, but for the rest of the world, like your watch, it's pretty simple. The only thing that exists is the embedded software. So when you press a button to do some action, the embedded code does everything - an OS or application software does not exist. Just something to think about the next time you are playing with your TV remote. Rest easy, Bill Gates isn't in your alarm clock..........yet.
That's embedded in general. For me specifically, I work on the avionics for some large aircraft.
And I'm sure that's way more than you ever wanted to know. Still awake? :)
I've done my fair share of application programming as well.
I have to agree with you - let's just put gas in it and ride! But there's always that bit of me that can't help bit tinker with something and see what happens. What is that they say? Fiddle with something long enough and you'll break it?
Enjoy the ride!
Boomer Sooner
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First Impressions
Well, I installed this Friday night and then Sat went on an all day ride with my buddies from work. I figured this would be a good test of the unit as we were going to be doing a variety of riding.
I'm actually kind of ambivalent about this product at the moment. Bear in mind I've not changed any settings yet - they're still in the factory positions, but I'm not seeing a large improvement.
The engine does seem to run a little smoother overall and have a little more pep. Others have mentioned that they can ride a bit slower in the gears than before w/o the lugging, and I've noticed this somewhat as well. For me, it is particularly noticable in 4th. There's that gray area between 3rd and 4th, and usually the choice is rev it up a bit in 3rd or chug it a bit in 4th, so now that's better.
The biggest difference to me is in the mid range. It feels to me it has more power and runs more smoothly here, particularly in the 40 - 60 mph range.
Now for the test ride. Over the course of the day we rode around 250 miles on back roads, a fair bit of twisties and finally the interstate.
The back roads were 2-lane "highways" (I'm being generous here in some places) where we could lope along at around 55 - 60. This seems to be the sweet spot for the bike to me. The bike felt like it ran the most smoothly, quietly, and with the least effort in this range. I also got the best mileage here. I averaged about 54 mpg on this stretch. This would be a little better than I've gotten in the past, which had been around 52, but this was an unusually calm day for Oklahoma. Usually, there's a pretty good wind you're driving into that hinders your mileage, so I'm calling this a wash.
As I mentioned earlier, the lugging is reduced, so riding through the slow twisties later was actually easier. This was really enjoyable and was hating the fact I didn't have some kind of bike or helmet mounted camera.
Now, at the end of the day, we tore up the interstate to get home, running around 75 - 80 mph the whole way. At this speed I was definitely feeling more vibration coming from the engine. Also, this is where the mileage sucked the worst. Not surprising, I should guess. After this run I averaged about 43 mpg. I significant drop from the 54 mpg earlier. 43 mpg is normally what I average running around town, so over the next couple of weeks I'll keep an eye on the mileage and see how this has been affected by the addition of the module.
Stay tuned, same Bat Time, same Bat Channel!
Boomer Sooner
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Thank You
Thank you everyone for your kind comments. Whenever a company tries to idiot-proof their products, there's always me to prove them wrong. :)
Even if only one person benefits from my effort, then I'll be happy.
Boomer Sooner
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Cobra FI2000R Install
I just gotta pipe in here and say that Boomer … the quality and professionalism of the instructions you post on this site are truly amazing. If you’re not a technical writer in real life, you should be. To my mind you could sell these for a handsome price. Much better than any instruction I’ve ever had with any after-market product I’ve ever purchased and fitted.
The members here are lucky to have you in this family.
Nil Sine Labore
Conrad
Tech Writer?
Tech writer!?!?! Perish the thought! I'm an embedded systems programmer! We thrive on the obscure and arcane. Writing understandable documentation is a foreign concept. :)
Tourvet, I believe this community has learned far more from your experience and knowledge than ever will from my poor efforts, but thank you for the compliment.
Boomer Sooner
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Excellent instructions and pictures
Thanks for posting the pictures and instructions. The only difference between the YouTube video and your pictures was you connected the Cobra to the O2 sensor. The video disconnected the O2 sensor. I'm assuming your processor is the "closed" version.
Tony
Closed
Hi Tony,
Yep, mine is the closed version. I changed some of the wording at top to hopefully clarify that a little.
Thanks for the input!
Boomer Sooner
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Closed Version
Guys,
Dumb question here, but I'm assuming I have the open version of the FI2000. I got mine from a guy locally who sold me his cobra pipes and his FMS in one shot, because he traded his 1300 in for a Road Star, but kept the aftermarket items for resale (I got them for a fraction of the price I could have gotten them new).
Anyway, on to the question...
I followed the directions, except for the fact that I did not disconnect the O2 sensor. I failed to see the link to the youtube video until today, and your version had other wires that needed to be connected. Anyway, I digress...
I don't have the O2 sensor disconnected, so will it be a problem? Am I screwing anything up on my bike by not having it disconnected? I haven't seen any issues... it runs great, to be honest. What should I do? Go ahead and disconnect, or leave it as it is?
-Will
Shaferwr,If you have only 1
Shaferwr,If you have only 1 set(2) of plug connecters that go under the tank then you have an open loop,the closed loop has 2 sets of connecters.If you leave the O2 sensor connected then it is overriding your #1 pot and you can't make any changes to that pot is what i'm assuming,kind of like having a closed loop.
Excellent work. If I hadn't
Excellent work. If I hadn't already installed one of these on my bike I'd do it right now. Hell, I may just go out and take it all apart just so I can follow your instructions.
Excellent job!!! Excellent pictures! There is no way in hell that anyone who purchases one of these could mess anything up!
Great work!
LOL!
Drag79stang, you slay me. Let me know if your bike actually goes back together. :)
Boomer Sooner
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Boomer, great explanation
Boomer, great explanation and demonstration of installing the FI2000. Did you install the unit due to other modifications, or just because you wanted to see if performance would be improved? BTW enjoyed you attending our meeting and hope to have an opportunity to ride with you. Also, as an after thought, did you experience any problems with your bike riding at higher altitudes? I love Yellowstone; however, the traffic has gotten almost unbearable. Hope to see you down the road. Ride safe, and remember: Live to Ride, Ride to Eat!
Howdy
Hey ArmyDog!
I have installed a ThunderAir kit, but haven't changed the pipes.......yet! The engine seemed to be running borderline too-lean as I would get an occasional pop or stumble, so I added the cobra to richen it up a little and also see if it would add a performance boost w/o killing the mileage.
I would love to ride through Yellowstone(and many other places!), but haven't been there yet. The highest Yorouchi has been is to the top of Mt. Scott, which isn't very high at 2,464 asl. She did spiral right up the road to the top w/o no effort, though. :)
Ride to eat! Good motto. If you go Thurs on the Rooster run then hopefully we'll see each other. If not, I'm going to try to make the Poker run in Guthrie Sat.
Let's ride!
Boomer Sooner
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Out of Town
Boomer, may be out of town on Thursday. Need to visit my daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren in Killeen, TX for a couple of days and may not make it back in time. However, am considering the Poker Run on Saturday. Hope to see you there. BTW have installed Cobra pipes but not an air kit as of yet. Leaning toward the FI2000. Just a little anxious about the MPG. Take Care.
Sat
Hope to see Sat, if the weather holds!
Boomer Sooner
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