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VStar Horn

Moving the Vstar 1300 horn to a spot behind the

Left "fake" cover.

Steven Low, KB9QFT

 

parts required ? (one  short 1/4 inch bolt or metric
equivalent,  flat washer & locknut)

Begin by removing the seat. Insert the key into the lock in
the side panel.

Turn the lock and lift the front of the seat then pull it
forward to remove.

 

  The gas tank will not need to be removed completely.

It will need to be moved about.  Remove the two bolts
indicated by the yellow arrows..

Slide the tank back two to three inches and you will feel the
front of the tank slip from the

two rubber front mounts. Moving the tank a little one way or
the other will be necessary

as you re-route the wiring for the horn. I also used needle
nose pliers to release the wire

holder (just to the right of the forward most bolt) from the bracket.

 


  Remove the single bolt which is holding the "fake" cover in place.

There are two rubber grommets with posts at the top backside
of the

cover.  Pull firmly outward at the top of the cover to
remove it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
This is what you will now see.  The two rubber grommets are

indicated by the black arrows.  They are designed to have
the cover

pulled firmly for release.

 

The yellow arrow indicates the bracket on which we will

mount the horn.  I recommend drilling a 1/4 inch hole

in the bracket at a point  right in the corner indicated
by

the arrow.

Place a rag behind the bracket to avoid accidentally striking
the

drill bit on the cylinder heads.

 

 

 

 

  Remove the two wires from the back side of the horn.

Use needle nose pliers to gently pry the connections

free.

 

 

 

 

  Remove the single bolt indicated by the yellow arrow to

release the horn.

 

 

 

 

  This picture shows one of the two holders for the
wiring which

leads to the horn and the brake switch at the rear brake
pedal.

Open them both  by gently prying apart the two sections
with your finger

in the slot indicated by the arrow. 

 

 

 
This is the upper holder in its open position.

 

 

 

 

 

  Remove the front bolt from the frame inserts (both right and
left sides)

which lie just in front of the gas tank. You can see the bolt

hole in the insert in the picture to the left.

Leave the rear "bolt" in place. They are not really

bolts at all but are push in connections which may

not survive being removed.

Clip the wire ties which are along the

right down tube which are holding the horn wiring.

One which is indicated by the yellow arrow in

this picture.

 

 

 

 

 
  I found it necessary to remove the wire tie shown here

also.  Difficult to show where it is but it is beneath
the right

frame insert, near the back of that insert, and as you can see goes

through that little hole. I did not replace this wire
tie.

 

 

 
  Re-route the wire for the horn up over the front

cylinder mount. I had to route it  by inserting

a length of stiff wire through from the back side

and above the front cylinder, taping the horn wire

 to it and pulling it back through.

 

  Wire tie the horn wiring to the bracket as indicated

by the arrow.  Inspect that the horn wire runs

as high as possible up under the tank.  I wouldn't

let the wire lie slack enough to droop down and lie

on top of the cylinder itself but it seemed to me

that it was going to stay high of any hot areas.

An option would be to cover the portion of the wiring

running over the cylinder area with heat resistant

material.  Connect the wiring to the horn and test it.

 

 

 As they say, re-assembly is the opposite of disassembly.  
Be sure to wire tie the rear brake pedal wiring as it

was and close the plastic brackets also used to hold it in
place.Re-connect the wire holder bracket at the rear

of the gas tank if you popped that loose.   I will
probably leave the "old" horn bracket intact.  It is probably

unnoticeable to those not looking for it.

Comments

Yamaha 1300 Horn Replacement

Thank you very much for the detailed instructions, I followed them today and it worked flawlessly.
What would you think about sawing the leftover mounting arm off? It is ugly to me to just leave it there.
Also, where might I find a better sounding horn for the 1300 Tourer?

the orphaned horn bracket

I have left my OEM horn bracket untouched; it is small and probably noticeable only to the very detail oriented viewer. My concern with cutting it off is that I am not a welder and removal with a cutting wheel could leave a hole in the downtube.

Steve

Moving Horn

I just moved my horn just above the raditor on the back side. There are two holes above the radiator. I used the hole on the right side (Sitting on bike) . I bent the bracket about 30 degrees on the horn end , used the mounting bolt from the bottom and found a nut for it and moved it.
Heat won't be a problem here and it still is loud enough . The best part it only takes about ten min to do and no drilling.
I never liked it on the side of the frame.
Your instructions are awsome but I wanted something differnt.

move the horn

I followed your instruction's and had no problem at all relocating the horn to it's new location. It was one of the few thing's about the 1300 that I didn't like. But there's more good thing's about the bike than bad . That being said and reading some of the other riders concerns I feel that as a group we can get things ironed out and maybe even star (Yamaha) will take notice too. Thanks again for the great tip.

Jim

New horn

I intended to follow this great how-to, but with a new auto horn. (Wolo Extra Loud("Extra Fuerte"))

The horn would fit under the cover (it's a good 3x larger than the stock horn), but I didn't really find a good way to mount it with the parts supplied with the horn. I tried to hang it from the horizontal bar that the cover snaps into, but the bracket then interfered with the cover.

Also, the previous posts had me a little concerned about heat. So, after puzzling over where to put it, I decided, at least for the time being, to re-use the stock horn mounting position. What the hell, I was really more concerned with a louder horn than whether people could see it or not.

Also got my Battery Tender Junior installed, just in time for the end of winter (procrastinator).

Now I just need to clean the bike up a little.

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Horn

Steve thanks for this post, I did this to mine also and no problems however, for you folks that are having problems thinking it's heat I might suggest that you make sure that the horn is not touching the plastic chrome cover. After I did mine I tried the horn and had a muted beep, I had to bend the horn mounting bracket about 25 deg toward the engine head so it wouldn't touch the cover. I have riden my bike it 100+ deg and the horn continued to work just fine, even after a stop for about 15 min. Food 4 thought. Thanks again Steve.

Mike

heat soak? No toot toot toot

One day after moving the horn behind the left side cover.

After a ride long enough to get the bike up to operating temperature, I parked it to eat at a restaurant. A half hour later I came out, started the bike and rode through the parking lot to the road. By chance saw someone stopped in traffic I knew and tried to get their attention by honking the horn... NOTHING! I shut off the bike, got off and leaned down to inspect the situation. Pressed the horn button and could hear just a bit of a very muted mmmmmm from the horn. Electrical connection must be good (?), perhaps a bad ground; or ... I thought "heat soak" ?????? I drove off and was out of town in about five miles. TOOT, TOOT, TOOT! Just as loud as ever.

So it seems that heat soak is the problem. Well if its real a problem at all. If there is no permanent damage to the horn, maybe not being able to blow the horn after a time of sitting idle for a several minutes is not too bad. I bet once on the road and moving it is not long before the horn becomes operational again. I will try to keep an eye on it and see if it happens consistently. Steve

Heat soak

I too relocated my horn the same way(you can see pics and threads on this site although not near as detailed as Steve's (good job)) and eventually ran into the same problem. Unfortunately I was trying to get someones attention that was about to switch lanes and run over me in the process. I installed a heat shield but it didn't help. I moved the horn again to the void above the radiator inside the frame neck. I used a button style allen head bolt like many others used on the bike, painted it black and used one of the unused holes in the front neck plate. I also panted the horn assembly to cover up the silver parts. I had to bend the horn bracket ever so slightly to give the horn sufficient clearance between the front plate and the horn body. The pic on this site is labled alternate horn placement. Red1

great service manual

you should write a service manual it looks great , you make it sound so easy :)

Excellent How To!

Wow, thank you for posting such a wonderful "How to". I don't know if I will move my horn very soon but this winter it might be a fun thing to do when there is a couple of feet of snow on the ground and temps are 20 below zero. Good job on this post! ~ Butch

COOL....... !!!!

COOL....... !!!!