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Some wows with the FI2000R…

Fri, 2008-09-05 08:35 — therocp

Some wows with the FI2000R…
I installed the FI2000R on my bike (http://1300tourer.com/node/1736) back in June and was, for the most part, very pleased with its performance. Last night on a very short ride the bike stalled. I managed to get it re-started and went about 10 feet before it stalled again. After that the bike would not start. This was very unnerving since I’ve had no problems what so ever with the motorcycle. At first I thought I was low on fuel –my trip odometer was showing about 130 miles and my low fuel light usually comes on at about 140-145 miles – I was thinking maybe I hadn’t reset the odometer properly at my last refill and I just needed gas (even though my low fuel light wasn’t on). So I called my wife and she brought my gas can (begrudgingly;-)). I put in about a gallon and half of fuel and tried re-starting the bike. Nothing. It was turning over but she wouldn’t start. I tried for about 5 minutes until a passerby (who happened to be a Harley owner) pointed out I was leaking fuel from my exhaust. Instant dread and panic! The bike has less than 1800 miles on it and I thought this should not be happening – these puppies are supposed to be very reliable! I called a tow truck and at first I was going to have it towed directly to my dealer. Unfortunately they were closed and I really didn’t want to leave the bike on their parking lot over night. So I got the bike towed home. Incidentally, the tow truck driver told me that he had towed about 12 bikes this summer most of them Harley’s and mine was the only Yamaha (which only added salt to my already wounded pride). Being as upset as I was last night I didn’t bother taking a closer look for a problem. Today I checked numerous blogs searching for similar problems and I didn’t find any (more unnerving!). This evening I decided to take a look. The first thing I checked, which didn’t even dawn on me last night, was the FI2000R. I turned on the ignition while viewing the FI2000R and I instantly noticed that 3 LEDs (system ok indicator) did not flash. Instead only the yellow LED (in the middle position) was on. This told me that the module was not working. I literally ripped it out in less than 2 minutes. Reconnected all the factory wiring and gave the ignition a try. She hesitated for about 20 seconds and then started. Music to my ears!! Took her out and she’s running fine –not as smooth as with the module but not as bad as I remember it either. Anyway warranty runs out on the module in about 2 days –I’m going to try for an exchange under warranty. Whether I install it again has yet to be decided!!!

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Fri, 2008-10-10 09:14 — MORG_kw

Cobra FMS

There's a couple of points to be made here:
While anything mechanical can become ineffective, there are hundreds of 1300 owners with a FMS who have not had even the slightest problem. A Cobra FMS (or one of the other types of FMS), especially when coupled with a new exhaust system, provides us with a bike that will run more smoothly at lower RPMs and absolutely have increased power in the mid range and upper RPMs, unless that FMS unit isn't configured properly. If one then adds a modified, or new air box, the need for a FMS will then become even greater. Those 3 items together are showing a 15-20% increase in effective HP.

Next, you mentioned your fuel light coming on at 140-145 miles and, if so, there are only two reasons it would do so with so few miles ridden: 1. You're not filling up/topping off and are adding at least 1/2 to 3/4 less gas than your tank will hold; 2. You are continuously attempting to set new land speed records for the 1300; : ) 3. A combination of 1 and 2.

There have been many discussions about miles ridden after topping off, but immediately after my light comes on, I normally top off with about 3.9-4.0 gal, this after having ridden 175 to 195 miles. I've ridden 215, still with fuel heard sloshing around inside the tank, but haven't needed to push it beyond that distance. The variation in mileage obviously is directly related to how often I mess with that little twisty grip-like thing on the right side of my handlebar. I generally keep it nice and active....not nearly as much fun when I don't. If you happen to be adding only 3.2 to 3.5 gal immediately after seeing that light come on, my guess is that you're shutting off the nozzle once the gas level reaches, or barely surpasses, the bottom air vents in the filler neck sleeve. After that point, you may have experienced little droplets spitting out onto your tank. If this is the case, you may want to consider the often performed gas tank mod....free, quick & easy (20 minutes) and exceptionally effective at allowing you to add up to an additional 3/4 gal of gas, perhaps even more, and do so more quickly and easily. It simply involves the adding of 4 or 5 air vent holes up high inside the filler neck sleeve. Just a thought.

Enjoy your weekend.
Morg - Key West

Sun, 2008-10-12 09:02 — oldguysrule

My fuel light comes on

My fuel light comes on around 130 miles.I start looking for fuel then.Wouldn't even think of trying to do 175 miles. Maybe I just don't want to push it :) What's this mod you are talking about. Drill the holes where?

Sun, 2008-10-12 09:24 — J.S.

Oldguysrule,you punch the

Oldguysrule,you punch the holes in the top of your filler neck.DO NOT DRILL.Use a sharp pointed punch and have your tank as full as possible to avoid fumes as much as you can.Cover your tank and put 2-4 holes in your filler neck.

Mon, 2008-10-13 20:24 — subnuke

Just my experience...

I have not punched my tank, but I can tell you that IN MY EXPERIENCE filling the tank up that much is not a good idea unless you are planning to burn a good bit out of the tank immediately. Just last week I filled up, took a little extra time to add as much as I could. Drove to work and parked. Over the course of the day the tank heats up in the sun and probably dumps a good half gallon of the gas through the vent line onto the pavement. Second time I have done this. The net net of that is NOT a financial win. Others may have different experience, but I will not fill the tank that high again unless I'm planning to burn it right out.

Fair winds~

David

Wed, 2008-10-15 07:41 — MORG_kw

Added air vents in tank's filler neck sleeve

Subnuke,

First, you're 100% correct about not gassing up and allowing your bike to just sit there, especially in the hot sun, due to the expansion of the gas which can cause spillage...not at all a good idea. It's also common sense that this is to be done only...again, only when you are either in the midst of a ride, or are immediately about to leave for a ride. I am nowhere near being alone with having done this gas tank mod....many have done the same, all with almost identical results. It's as simple as choosing whether you do, or do not, have any interest in extending your mileage by 40 to 50 miles, or more, between fill-ups. Regardless of your interest, it's been nice for many to know that our bike affords one 175 to 200 miles between fill-ups without any problems, or concerns, whatsoever. Whether you take advantage of this feature, as many have done, is purely a matter of your own personal choice.

Morg

Thu, 2008-10-09 22:27 — therocp

UPDATE

Cobra replaced the defective module no questions asked!! Great bunch of people at Cobra!!
The question is do I want to reinstall it again?? I kinda like the raunchy power curve that I get without the FI2000 and the pipes (V&H 2 into 1's) sound better too! I can live with the little bit of backfire as well. Maybe I'll wait until spring.... ;-)

Mon, 2008-09-08 22:01 — dperique

One more part that can break, ... Swell.

What's the warranty period -- I'll keep that in mind. Maybe I need to keep a few tools on the bike in case this schit happens to me. Let's see, 12mm socket, socket wrench, ability to get tank off, pull coolant cover area off and remember how to get those connectors off.

Thanks for the report & please update when you get the new unit.

Dennis

Fri, 2008-09-05 16:48 — Trainman

Went on a trip

Went N.C. last weekend and a guy staying at the same lodge as me,riding a hd from naples fl. had his bike quit and it ended up beening the power commander..he also removed it..

David
Brandon,Fl